1. Set up of the Problem: Precursor to Answering Innumerable Issues
We assert that due to the fact that abbreviated lower math tech approximations to the derived quintic yield incommensurate very different physics answers to the delta t,
, problem, hence due to those very different answers, it is necessary to stop convenient approximations and to solve the problem via Galois theory. The godfather review of all solvable quintic problems is given here [1] and although a reviewer refused to learn the points raised, a solution to this specialized quintic is given in [2] . Whereas it will be the job of explaining in simple language why this is necessary. What we found is that if one changed the quintic to a quadratic, that the answers for the
problem look radically different from what we get when we take the derivative of the quintic, changing it, to understanding that golly gee, the following are not commensurate with each other. Note that the 2nd entry into Equation (1) below comes from applying the Gauss-Lucas theorem [3] [4] . In the end the three different would be general solutions to
in these three equations look very different from each other. This is using manipulations of the original quintic as given by the author in [5]
(1)
A reviewer did the assertion that a specialized solution to the third equation existed, whereas he was contravening several hundred years of Quintic polynomial research [6] [7] [8] . We will in the end answer that. And now to the physics of how the third equation the Quintic arose in the first place [5] .
This document will address the problem of a worm hole, as to the question of if its throat is opened or closed [9] , in doing so, the author references an earlier publication [5] which isolated a quintic polynomial in terms of delta t, i.e.
, and claims that a general solution in terms of what is called a restricted Quintic, with a fifth order term of helps determine the likelihood that a determination can be made as to if gravity is semi classical, or could be quantized. The quintic in question [5] is for a black hole [5] but if we make the assertion that a worm hole may connect two black holes, with information transmitted between them by quantum teleportation [10] [11] we then assert that in a general sense the classical versus quantum nature of gravity of the worm hole may be ascertained. A subsidiary issue is, does the existence of a solution to
allow for a minimum uncertainty principle solution for gravitons via [12] [13]
, and if
is solved, do we have a criteria to state if gravity and gravitation is classical, semi classical or quantum? Note that the solution to the quintic, in [2] may have as noted by a reviewer, to have particular solutions which are trivial. We state for the record that such trivial solutions in no way contradict the complexity of the general solution and that the readers of this document should consult the Galois theory, and Abel’s insolvability theorem [7] [8] for general quintic solutions as a good reason as to disregard trivial solutions to the quintic as communicated to the author by a referee as given in [14] . i.e. one has to consider generalized solutions to the quintic according to problems, but if we go to higher dimensions, i.e.
gets very complicated fast hence this long article. And also, we will be dealing with the reviewers [14] distaste for negative temperature, which is what started this inquiry in the first place due to comments raised by the reviewer in [14] is related to Kaluza Klein cosmology as given in reference [15] where we have an explanation as with respect to reference [16] and negative temperatures. As is noted in reference [16] , negative temperatures when connected with the solution to the quintic as in [2] and [5] do, in certain cases which will be outlined connect solidly with negative temperatures. Contributing to positive entropy in black holes, this is relatable to the physics in [17] [18] which will be in our article. [2] due to the range of values of
and
in [5] . This in turns of the additional dimensionality, d, for space times above four dimensions specifies
. [5] . When d = 1 we have Kaluza Klein type physics, and so it goes. The Kaluza Klein [15] situation with d = 1 is by far and away the easiest situation to work with, and with the least.
2. A Reviewer’s Complaints, and Four Cases to Consider
The paper confused a reviewer who did not understand the references as to negative temperature. Hence, the first main part of the document is with regards to. negative temperature [15] . Then the idea of a general solution to a polynomial equation, the quintic [2] [5] .
Before we do this temperature discussion, i.e. the necessary condition for picking the sign of
is gone into, using results from [2] , we can state then that (from the abstract) that, the following is what we adhere to.
There are here, though four cases to consider, and three of these arise if
is infinitesimally small, in which we have the following rules for the sign of
We are here, revising what is brought up in the discussion of Equation (1) which is that we have three different would be equations to contend with which are linked to [5] and its results.
Case 1:
The first one, is for when we have an effective quadratic equation for
due to
being infinitesimally small. And we are avoiding at all costs having imaginary
.
Note that for extra dimensions d = 1, 3, 5, 7, the coefficient
is always less than zero, leading to no requirement for
to be < 0. If d = 2, 4, 6, need
for coefficient
to be less than zero. This will be shown to conflict with conditions for general Galois solvability of
. Note, that special solutions for
are easy to obtain, as a reviewer noted, but that we are referring to completely general solutions, not specific special case solutions.
Now for the sign of
, in terms of if we have
, and we claim this is also convenient as to obtain an easily determined value of, for d = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and a very small value of
(2)
Note then that if d = 1, as in Kaluza Klein theory, we have then that there are no questions of imaginary time, and also no
restrictions. In answer to one of the reviewer’s questions, we are avoiding having imaginary time, hence, this puts restrictions as to the choice of
. Ironically, in the case of very small
, if d = 1, 3, 5, 7, we have
always real valued and setting
is not necessary. i.e. negative temperature
may occur. In doing so, if we do this, it means that there can could be positive entropy, for black holes, as is discussed in [16] . Whereas for d = 2, 4, 6, and above we must have
and then the case of if we have sufficiently small
an unavoidable situation for possible negative black hole entropy, no matter what which is discussed in [16] . i.e. if we have small
and case 1 used, for d = 3 we may have a connection with quantized gravity for reasons we will discuss later on in this manuscript.
Case 2, infinitesimal
and d = 1 the Kaluza Klein case.
We then always have
real valued, and no restrictions on
.
Case 3, infinitesimal
, and the possibility that
could be imaginary. If d = 2, 4, 6, and
.
The reviewer does not like imaginary time. Therefore, for the time being this is a mathematical demonstration only and will be only included in for completeness of this document. However, if we have d = 2, 4, 6, and
the following limiting behavior is noted, in Equation (3).
This in all of what the reviewer has asked for is putting a very strong preference in for d = 1 as the Kaluza Klein case avoids multiple pathologies, but again only in the case that
to the fifth power is neglected.
Can this dropping off of
to the fifth power be justified. A full comment on that issue will be in the final part of this manuscript.
For the record, this below is the case, and situation which the reviewer disliked the most.
(3)
i.e. imaginary time, for
Note this cannot happen, i.e. imaginary time, for d = 1, 3, 5, 7.
If we can accept imaginary time, then in the case of d = 2, 4, 6, we could have
. However, the reviewer of this manuscript has indicated that he does not favor the existence or acceptance of imaginary time. Needless to say though, for infinitesimal
if we wish to avoid imaginary times, it is best to consider dimensions d = 1, 3, 5, and above to have a situation for which
infinitesimal but real valued, no matter what the sign of
is. And d = 3 ties in directly with the situation given in [17] [18] [19] ; we have that there is a situation which favors d = 3 for reasons which are given on page 639 of [19] and which indicate a connection to coupling coefficients, of effective Yang Mills theory which will be commented upon in a reply to the referee in the later part of this document.
Note that in the small
limit for d = 1, 3, 5, 7 we cleanly avoid any imaginary time no matter what the sign of
is. But that for small
limit for d = 2, 4, 6, we can have imaginary time. And this, plus the connection to the discussion on page 639 about coupling constant, if d = 3, reference [19] , page 639 may in itself for infinitesimal
lend toward supporting d = 3. This arises also because of the AdS/CFT correspondence bought up in [20] [21] which we use.
All this is well trod physics, and is not disturbing, but the problem becomes glaring if we have
not as infinitesimal, in which then we have some truly bizarre physics. i.e. in that case, we have to appeal to Galois theory and a quintic Galois solution [5] [7] [8] .
Case 4, when we have a generalized solution for a Quintic polynomial, when
is not necessarily infinitesimal.
Note that for extra dimensions d = 1, 3, 5, 7, the coefficient
is always less than zero, leading to no requirement for
to be < 0. The problem is though, that for d = 1, 3, 5, 7 and above, that if [5] is true, then there is no generalized Gauss theory solution to the restricted Quintic. As due to communication by the referee which we will discuss at length, due to [5] he very quickly came up with a specialized trivial example for solving this quintic, but in doing so he contravened not only [5] but also [7] [8] .
If we do not have an infinitesimal
and if d = 1, 3, 5, 7, the coefficient
is always less than zero, then if the Galois solvability criteria is correct for the quintic as given in [5] as we will outline, we have a huge problem.
This for general Galois solvability of
. If d = 2, 4, 6, need
for coefficient
to be greater than zero. This for general Galois solvability of
. Note, that special solutions for
are easy to obtain, as a reviewer noted, but that we are referring to completely general solutions, not specific special case solutions.
As has been noted by Galois, and others, there are trivial specific solutions as to the quintic, but what is referred to is a general polynomial solution to the quintic fifth order is not solvable in a general algebraic sense. i.e. there are noted fourth order general solutions to fourth order polynomial equations, but none in the sense of generalized solutions for fifth order polynomials [2] [5] [7] [8] . A reference to a Rocky mountain journal of mathematics is included for a general solution to a specific fifth order equation [2] [5] , and as correctly noted by the reviewer, that in one sense the specialized general fifth order equation so derived by the author has a trivial special case solution Precisely because we do not have a physics reason for making the restriction to the specific special case solution suggested by the reviewer, we have to appeal to a general solution, and that involves a decomposition rooted in Galois theory, among others.
Finally, a comment as to the minimum uncertainty principle, as a way to imply quantization is included. Generally, as noted by the reviewer, the absence of a solution to a problem in terms of the minimum uncertainty principle, in this case delta E delta t = h bar, written as
in itself is not evidence as to quantization. In this case, it actually does imply quantization [5] [6] for a reason given in this manuscript. The reviewer also is bothered by a discussion as to semi classicality versus alleged quantum solutions via an AdS/CFT [2] [16] correspondence discussion.
The main problem has been the Qintic polynomial, and this is taking up the lions share of this manuscript. i.e. it is famously noted by Galois and others that a generalized equation for completely general fifth order polynomials is not solvable [5] [7] [8] . The restricted general fifth order polynomial, the restricted quintic does have trivial specialized solutions, but it still s a very tough technical problem, for generalized solutions. Again, as noted, there is a reference as to solving the restricted fifth order general quintic polynomial [5] [7] [8] . And the author urges that people actually read it. And also review a bit of the literature as to Galois theory provided [5] [7] [8] .
In doing so, the author is not suggesting that there are not numerical solutions to the restricted fifth order quintic polynomial. Certainly they are, and the author actually has a PhD dissertation using Runge Kutta techniques [21] [22] [23] [24] as to a condensed matter solution to a very tough condensed matter physics problem [25] . In a sense, this entire article is motivated by the author’s PhD dissertation, as of 2001 which had to be numerically iterated, via Runge Kutta and also reviewed by quantum field theory to solve a similar extremely complicated nonlinear problem [25] . Due to the comments of the reviewer, the author hopes that readers take the time to review the Galois motivated manuscript, and realize that the author has a mathematics degree in numerical analysis, so the author is fully aware of the special case solution. The special case solution as alluded to by the reviewer is not a general equation solution [14] , for reasons in Galois theory, and in other similar work by Abel and other mathematicians [5] [7] [8] . Having said that, we get to the first complaint area of the reviewer, as to the physical nature of assumed negative temperatures in black hole, and in our case, worm hole physics. Keep in mind that we will relate the closure of a worm hole throat to temperature,
as given by Visser [9] . So, all this is physically pertinent. The methods as to numerical interpolation were studied in [25] [26] [27] , whereas [26] and [27] actually reflect some of the modeling issues which show up even today, and where the idea of gravitons, as information carriers, as given in [22] .
Before we proceed further, as a bridge to the negative temperature issue of black holes, we wish to address the most direct complaint raised by the reviewer, and that has to do with the problem of this formalism and its adherence to String theory.
3. How to Reconcile String Theory Which Is a Quantum Gravity Regime, with Results Which Seem to Be Inconsistent with Quantum Gravity
The reviewer, in [14] sent the following question which deserves an answer, i.e.
Quote
Another issue is that in all of this the author is working within a “stringy” framework, for instance the values of d are chosen such as to be compatible with string theory, AdS/CFT concepts are used throughout the work, and so on. However, string theory is a theory of quantum gravity. How can you make assumptions consistent with quantum gravity and then derive conditions which are inconsistent with quantum gravity at the same time? This is very inconsistent.
End of quote
The author refers the readers to [19] , specifically go to page 639 as to the coupling constants used in super Yang Mills theory. i.e. in the section labeled “the Coupling constants”, [24] write that
Quote, from [19] , page 639
“The dimensional effective coupling of super Yang Mills theory in d + 1 dimension is scale dependent. At an energy scale E, it is determined by dimensional analysis to be
(4)
This coupling is small, so that perturbation theory applies for large E (the UV) for d < 3, and for small E (the IR). The special case of d = 3 corresponds to
super Yang Mills theory in four dimensions, which is known to be a UV finite, conformally invariant theory. In that case,
is independent of the scale E and corresponds to the t’Hooft coupling constant
(4)
This is the constant which is held constant in the large-N expansion of the gauge theory discussed below.
End of quote from page 639 of [19] .
i.e. in our work, the question of d dependence will be crucial in the application of the
to the question of if we have adherence to quantum gravity, via if we need a negative temperature, will show up as follows, namely.
If we have from [2] the following decomposition of the quintic polynomial, and for this see Equation (6) below, we will be able to go look at the dynamics of what may be occurring for d = 3, i.e. what if we have independence of a coupling constant from energy, we have from d = 3 in the situation where we have no dependence of the coefficient
upon the sign of the
. If say we have a typical
dependence of system energy, say
we are saying, if
we believe that this removes the necessity of having a negative, or positive temperature, that then the possibility of, say a black hole having negative entropy (for positive temperature) as given by [15] is not important. But this would mean an effective statistically based negative energy, which would be for say energy flowing into a black hole. However, in our derivation of the quintic polynomial, in [2] we are dependent upon an entropy count based upon infinite statistics counting algorithm based upon entropy being based upon an admitted particle count, i.e. S ~ particle count n, as given in [28] . The upshot is, that if we have d = 3 that we have a string theory-based removal of the sign of energy, and temperature in coupling which means that the coupling constant as given in Equations (4) and (5) is also consistent with [29] and is also covered in [5] as we derived it. i.e. that the result we have, which uses [28] and [29] , for d = 3 is fully consistent with the Equation (4) and Equation (5) removal of the centrality of how we evaluate energy, in terms of the sign of energy, if we in doing this regard
our input energy, as say along the lines of
. In this sense, our results in terms of removal of the importance of the sign of the temperature, and by extension statistical energy, given in Equation (6) below may make a partial linkage between Equation (6) below, and Equation (5) if we can write
, as an input into Equation (5), with the applied temperature
should be negative if
for
does not have to be negative if
for
but the solvability requirement for a Galois solution, by [5]
is impossible. And
all the time
(5)
If the removal of the sign of the temperature, as given in
, is similar to reducing the importance of the sign of energy, as an input using
, with E used in Equation (5), we then have a connection with string theory which is in a sense answering the referees objections. This is different from when we have sensitivity as to the sign.
In fact, as discussed earlier, using [2] and [5] we have that if we have this, that we can only use d = 2, 4, 6, so as to have a preference for negative temperatures and if [16] is believed, then a situation for which all black hole entropy is then positive. If we have positive entropy, and we model the worm hole as a connection between two black holes, then we may have a consistent physical model, indicating positive entropy.
i.e. for values of d = 2, d = 4, d = 6, we have a situation where we are looking for where we have would be quantum behavior, i.e. a solution for this quintic, if we have negative temperatures. i.e.
. We claim then that we have a relationship to the situation given in Equation (5) above. And thereby answer the reviewer’s question.
When
we claim then that Equation (6) is in sync with Equation (5) and that especially when d = 3 we have the tie in with Equation (6) and Equation (5). And most telling the d = 3 case appears to superimpose directly with Equation (6) and the discussion as to what that implies given on page 639 but we rule out d = 3, if we are looking at a generalized Galois solution given through Equation (6).
4. Negative Temperatures
One of the complaints of a reviewer has been about the idea of negative temperatures. Before we begin our discussion, we will briefly allude to the history of negative temperatures, and black hole physics, then allude as to what it may have to do with our problem. [16] is the starting reference, i.e. we will reference negative temperature as far as the history of black hole physics.
The executive summary of black hole physics, is that, indeed, as given by [16] and its additional references, as cited below that in order insure that the entropy of a black hole is non-negative, i.e. positive that we require having a negative Hawking temperature.
From [16] we will follow the following quote.
II. New Hawking Temperatures from Thermodynamics
In the spin systems the temperature can be negative, due to the upper bound of the energy spectrum [4] . Recently, a number of black hole solutions which have similar upper bounds of the black hole masses have been discovered [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] I have argued that the Hawking temperatures for these systems might not be given by the usual formula
[30] [31] [32] [33] which is non-negative, but by new formulae which can be negative depending on the situations [34] [35] . The argument was based on the Hawking’s area theorem and the second law. This has been found to agree completely with CF T analysis, being related to the AdS/CF T correspondence, as far as the CF T analysis is available [34] [35] .
End of quote
Admittedly, negative temperature appears to contravene the Hawking black hole temperature formula.
Quote, from [35] , here we are using our appendix entries to cover entries given in [35] .
But this seems to be physically nonsensical since the entropy is non-negative, “by its definition” as a measure of disorderedness [36] ; the positiveness of the entropy is a “minimum” requirement that must be satisfied if the entropy has a statistical mechanical origin [32] [37] [39] . Moreover, without the guarantee of the second law, there would be no justification for identifying the entropies, even though they satisfy the first law [33] [38] . So, in this paper I consider a different approach which can resolve the two problems, simultaneously. The new resolution is to consider an entropy
(7)
which is non-negative manifestly and also satisfying the second law from the area theorem, as in the case of
in
(8)
for a positive Ω. But, in this case I must pay the price, by ˆ considering a new temperature
(9)
End of quote
The tack of reference [9] [30] [37] is that in order to have a positive black hole entropy, that we have to entertain negative temperature, which is given in Equation (9) and which is elaborated on in page 5 of reference [9] [30] [37] i.e. by the following adage, i.e. in order to have positive black hole entropy, the temperature has to be negative, i.e. Equation (8) could give negative black hole entropy, and in order to obtain positive entropy for a black hole, as given by Equation (7) we have to have Equation (9) with negative temperature. To those whom still do not believe this summary? Go to reference [9] [30] [37] [38] and look it up. Now how does this connect worm holes? i.e. a typical model of worm holes has in its formulation a worm hole bridge between two black holes. The complete Schwarzschild geometry consists of a black hole, a white hole, and two Universes connected at their horizons by a wormhole [39] . We have already discussed that negative temperature may exist in astrophysics, i.e. our next section is to link that to worm holes [40] .
5. Negative Temperatures, and the Total Energy of Worm Holes
As we will argue accessing Juan Maldacena, et al. [41] , the total energy of a worm hole reads as follows, h namely
. (10)
In short, if the total wormhole
, temperature is less than zero, we have, then that the
is greater than zero. So, what does this mean? Negative energy appears in the speculative theory of wormholes, where it is needed to keep the wormhole open. A wormhole directly connects two locations which may be separated arbitrarily far apart in both space and time, and in principle allows near-instantaneous travel between them [44] .
i.e. for a negative temperature, the worm hole throat is shut, and if the wormhole is open, the temperature has to be >0, indeed
is less than zero, we have a shut worm hole. But we observe in [42] in its figure 1, of page 1446 a figure 1, of [42] which has the likely interpretation of being a black hole, linked to a white hole, with a worm hole specifying entanglement between the two regimes. Of the two astrophysical objects. This is also part of [43] .
6. Wormholes and Black Holes, and Possibly White Holes
As mentioned before, we have in [44] in its figure 1, of page 1446 of [42] a possible linkage between a black hole, to a white hole via a worm hole. In any case, according to [3] there is a connection via quantum teleportation which may link two black holes, hence, this is akin to [9] [36] [42] with some additional caveats/ i.e. as seen in [4] . And [4] , the subject of a linkage of transversal worm holes is being revisited, and we claim also that we can add more specific structure to the analysis, as recently presented. Note that in [4] that the introduction to the abstract states, i.e. go to [4] and do not forget what is in [36] [42] [44] about quantum teleportation linkage between two black holes as to a worm hole bridge, Now, consider
Quote, from abstract of [4]
We study various aspects of wormholes that are made traversable by an interaction between the two of boundaries. We concentrate on the case of nearlyAdS2 gravity and discuss a very simple mechanical picture for the gravitational dynamics.
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Our supposition goes beyond this, i.e. an analysis as to the physics of transversable worm holes is built upon gravitational physics as it affects the energy value, as given in Equation (9). i.e. we assume a set of given conditions which allow for if the temperature,
is positive or negative. To do this though we will answer a complete mathematical mis understanding of quintic mathematics by the referee.
7. Answering a Misunderstanding by the Referee as to the Mathematical Solution of a Quintic Polynomial, Which Is Used to Ascertain if Ttemperature Is Positive or Negative
First of all, we ask the readers to review Equation (9), and this will be to determine if
or positive and this comes from use of [2] , i.e. we will look at the following Equations ((11), (12)) and then if Equation (12) holds, Equation (13) below which mandates having
in Equation (6) which then leads to what the reviewer incorrectly found a trivial solution for, i.e. the reviewer, and also readers are expected to look at Galois theory to come up with a generalized, as opposed to looking at Galois theory for general solvability.
Note that for reasons which will be discussed in terms of its attendant physics in the later part of the manuscript, that for extremely small
that in that situation where we have a simple quadratic, that instead of having
we have, instead
when we have
about zero (11)
This is reflected in a simple general physics solution to
(12)
If we have non-vanishing
the situation changes, and we have then
(13)
We will, in spite of the protests of the reviewer, avoid the specialized solution, use a general solution, and then state
when we have
still contributing (14)
If Equation (12) no longer holds due to the fact we no longer have a quadratic equation due to
not vanishing, we will have to go to what the reviewer found so distasteful, i.e. Equation (14), and then the odd situation of what is given below. It is expected that the reviewer and also readers will take the time to go to this reference, which is in [2] and also [11] and then take the time to read some Galois theory. FTR we will then go back to Equation (6) when setting up the usage of Equation (15) below.
Let a and b be nonzero rational numbers. We show that there are an infinite number of essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials
. On the other hand, we show that there are only five essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials
, namely, by [2] [11]
(15)
Here,
, and we change the dimensional scaling of
and
, so as to be consistent with Equation (15), and in addition, the d in Equation (6) can range in size from d = 2, 4, 6 so as to keep our construction consistent with String theory.
If d = 1, 3, 5, 7 we have then that we could have then, with
either greater than or less than zero, with the odd situation that at d = 1, a situation where the sign, and the value of
could even be zero itself, i.e. as an artifact of Kaluza Klein theory, but then all connection then to Equation (15) would be lost and the following, at d = 1
would always be negative. i.e.
If d = 1, then the following would always be true, (Kaluza Klein theory) and then we would be having
(16)
The only way to avoid having all connections with Kaluza Klein theory removed is to say that in the case of d = 1 that we would have to have
infinitesimally small, hence we state the following.
Theorem A
If d = 1 in order to come up with solvable conditions for Equation (6)
will be assumed to be negligible, i.e. we then look at a quadratic version in the solution of
of Equation (6), and that then only when d = 1. i.e. d = 1 will presumably be having use of Equation (12), hence having a situation which involves no requirement on
being less than zero. In fact,
could be any value we wished including the positively weird situation that
could go to zero itself. So long as d = 1 that is allowed. Once d does not equal 1, we have then very
dependent behavior.
If
we have then very
dependent behavior. And then we have to go to the weirdness which the referee found so objectionable.
Now we will take the position of directly quoting the referee in [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] in full and to really answer him.
Quote
Let me now come to the main problem of the paper. All the arguments of the paper rely on the fact that a given quintic polynomial of the form
is only solvable for certain choices of coefficients. In fact, the author says he shows there are only five essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials which are solvable. First of all, I don’t understand what “essentially different” means. Does it mean polynomials which are not multiples of each other? I find it in any case very hard to believe that there are no other polynomials of that type which are solvable. For instance, the following equation:
, Equation (1) is trivially solved by X = 1, it is not a multiple of any of the other polynomials (assuming that’s what is meant by essentially different) and is irreducible. And similarly, one can construct infinitely many other examples. So, the author should clarify this point,
End of quote
In the case of d = 1, i.e. Kaluza Klein there is no problem, i.e. see Theorem 1 above. and it becomes a trivial general solution which is reflected in Equation (16) at d = 1
would always be negative. And the quintic would in d = 1 reduce to solving Equation (12), i.e. d = 1 as being solvable would require
not contributing, presumably due to being negligible in the full sense of the word and the only for Equation (12), and d = 1 we would then have (Kaluza Klein) a situation where the sign of
, and its magnitude do not play any role in the determination of
.
In the case of
, we will then have to consider when
intrudes, hence the following discussion below.
i.e. the supposition given above is that there is a specific set of conditions for which the author specifically refutes this by the following statement. i.e. that this is verbatim. i.e. we are not using the specialized solution to the general solution for Equation (17). In particular we have that for a generalized quintic, even in trinomial form that one is not going to come up with a particular solution which fits the requirements of a general solution. i.e. what was done in [14] was to arbitrarily demand that Equation (17) have A1 = −1 and A2 = 1, and then from there have a trivial solution made out which would simply satisfy the needed delta t value, which the referee set as equal to 1. We say without reservation that if we wish to have generalized inputs into A1 and A2 of the quintic equation that the following must be adhered to, and that without reservation we make, in the spirit of a generalized polynomial solution the following statement as to the values of the quintic equation. i.e.
(17)
There are no conceivable conditions for which one would have such a situation. We are referring to general solvability. Of quintics, by what is known as by radicals. See more on this as follows.
In order to make this a bit more to the point, the author will go to Galois theory, temporarily, since the referee did not read the following i.e. [6] [7] [8] The next section of this paper will cite some of the foundational issues brought up in [8] which shows specifically the problem. First will be how the uncertainty principle is related to 5-dimensional physics, since this is one of the reasons why we actually bothered to have a quintic equation formed upon the minimum uncertainty given in the reference [5] which we will justify in our document.
8. How to Relate and Embed the Uncertainty Principle from Five-Dimensional Physics
From [45] we have the following discussion which we find is very pertinent to d = 1 Kaluza Klein physics and its relationship to the i.e. consider first Let us now, briefly allude to the [46] [47] reference, namely:
Start with the idea of an embedding of four-dimensional space-time in a 5-dimensional time interval. [45] [46] and realize it inter connections with [46] [47] [48] [49] where L = length of canonical metric in 5-Dimensional theory
(18)
And then we present, the five momenta as given by
(19)
Then, if
(20)
One eventually, as given by [48] obtains the Heisenberg type of relations that
(21)
Depending upon how we evaluate
, we can then say that if
, and if we have L as the length of the additional dimension, that we have from deterministic reasoning in 5 dimensions achieved Equation (20) which in four dimensions, depending upon how
is evaluated is in common with
[50] .
To proceed with this further in [51] we have that
, and that the following holds, in cosmological physics, in a general sense, i.e. in cosmology we can depend upon the following assumptions, namely, as derived by the author in [52] . We use the approximation as presented in [52] which we reproduce below as also in [53] [54] .
(22)
If we use the following, from the Roberson-Walker metric [52]
(23)
Following Unruh [53] [54] , write then, an uncertainty of metric tensor as, with the following inputs
(24)
Then, if
[52] [53] [54]
(25)
This Equation (24) is such that we can extract, up to a point the HUP principle for uncertainty in time and energy, with one very large caveat added, namely if we use the fluid approximation of space-time [52]
(26)
Then by [52]
(27)
Then, by [52]
(28)
In this case, looking at a rewrite of the Equation (21) to read, approximately as
(29)
With the
(30)
Unless
.
Having processed in how 5 dimensional geometry may allow for the HUP according to the above argument let us now see how, if we do not have
not contributing, i.e. a quintic, in line with a simple reduction in complexity solution to the Equation (16) problem, i.e. a quick and dirty solution [4] [49] [51] [55] .
9. Applying the Gauss-Lucas Theorem to Equation (17)
Gauss-Lucas theorem gives a geometrical relation between the roots of a polynomial P and the roots of its derivative P'. i.e., If P is a (nonconstant) polynomial with complex coefficients, all zeros of P' belong to the convex hull of the set of zeros of P. [49]
(31)
Superficially, this imposes the same sort of restrictions upon
for d = 1, 3, 5, but then
(32)
Hence, we have to do further root analysis.
10. Brief Summary of Reference [8] and the Problem of a Solution by Radicals
Readers are recommended to go to page 4 of [8] where the question of if a quintic polynomial is exactly solvable. Well it is not.
The answer to why this is known as the Abel Ruffini theorem [49] i.e. to look at the following.
The theorem does not assert that some higher-degree polynomial equations have no solution. In fact, the opposite is true: every non-constant polynomial equation in one unknown, with real or complex coefficients, has at least one complex number as a solution (and thus, by polynomial division, as many complex roots as its degree, counting repeated roots); this is the fundamental theorem of algebra. These solutions can be computed to any desired degree of accuracy using numerical methods such as the Newton-Raphson method or the Laguerre method, and in this way they are no different from solutions to polynomial equations of the second, third, or fourth degrees. It also does not assert that no higher-degree polynomial equations can be solved in radicals: the equation xn − 1 = 0 can be solved in radicals for every positive integer n, for example. The theorem only shows that there is no general solution in radicals that applies to all equations of a given degree greater than 4.
Also, see [55] [56] , i.e. what the referee does not understand [14] is
Quote
no general solution in radicals for degree five generalized quintic equations means the following cannot be done.
A general solution in radicals. An algebraic solution or solution in radicals is a closed form expression, and more specifically a closed-form algebraic expression, that is the solution of an algebraic equation in terms of the coefficients, relying only on addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, raising to integer powers, and the extraction of roots (square roots, cube roots, etc.).
As stated, we can also go to [57] i.e. page 54 where the definition of solvability by Radicals is done abstractly. See section 9, solvability of polynomials by radicals. Also [58] [59] .
The result of reference [11] which is mis understood here, is in determining if a radical solution of the given quintic exists. i.e. in terms of Galois splitting field. The results of Equation (32) ignored by the referee, is in obtaining a solution in terms of radicals is only achievable with regards to the five linear combinations of the sort given for coefficients given in Equation (33). Now if we restrict the solution to the specialized quintic referred to in Equation (12).
11. Next Objection by the Referee. From [14] , Is the Absence of Being Able to Apply a Minimum Uncertainty Principle, as a Proof of Lack of Quantum Gravity
Quote from [14]
It is unclear to me how the author reaches certain conclusions about a possible quantum nature of gravity. For instance, the whole line of real solving in Equation (12) is unclear. Why if T temperature > 0 then gravity must be semi-classical? Is it because then one cannot have a minimum uncertainty principle? If so, then it is unclear to me why the absence of a minimum uncertainty principle is in itself an indication that gravity cannot be quantum. Certainly, it hints in that direction, but it is not a solid indication.
End of quote
We will go to two cases, only since these are referred to in terms of first, very small
in the case of a definitely real value to the time interval, in which we will be looking at in terms of
Case one, Tiny time step, temperature T can either be less than or greater than zero, and no imaginary time.
Again, as indicated by Equation (1) we have that for a very small-time step, for a non-imaginary time, that no matter what the sign of Temperature, T, that
(33)
In this case, the referee’s question is pertinent. i.e. it is related to the minimum uncertainty principle. We do not, in the case of very small-time step, have a situation for which temperature T is required to be either positive or negative, hence we reduce this situation to being of the form
i.e.
(34)
The sign
plays no role in the determination of an energy value, other than that this conceivably be the minimum state of a graviton condensate.
Now let us consider what if d = 1, i.e. Kaluza Klein, i.e. then we have
(35)
We are then leading to, if we have a distance, we call
.
(36)
If in this situation we have
(37)
We claim that in the case of d = 1 in the situation for which
, that indeed the ground state, as referred to in Equation (37) is a strong indicator of quantum gravity. i.e., The zero-point energy is dependent upon a graviton count,
.
We see that in the case of minimum uncertainty in quantum mechanics, Quantum mechanically, the uncertainty principle forces the electron to have non-zero momentum and non-zero expectation value of position. If a is an average distance electron-proton distance, the uncertainty principle informs us that the minimum electron momentum is on the order of ħ/a. i.e. if we have the same situation with a presumed graviton, and give it a mass of
infinitesimally small but not zero, and say we have a distance we call
. So, the minimum graviton momentum is
(38)
Assume that gravitons are then endowed with mass, and then the mass vanishes
(39)
leads to a minimum energy equation looking like
(40)
The HUP is central to the discussion of if a minimum uncertainty exists. In any stationary state
or at least is a constant so any system in which there is a stationary state that has a gaussian wave function will have minimum position/momentum uncertainty. One case where this occurs is the ground state of the harmonic oscillator. In the case of a graviton we have that
from the de Broglie hypothesis, we will answer in
the last part of the question the final issues of if the quantum condition is due to a minimum uncertainty principle being satisfied.
Doing so means that we can, if d = 1, as in the case of Kaluza Klein theory, and 5-dimensional cosmology [5] still stick with
. Other values of d will lead to different situations. i.e., for d = 0, d = 2, d = 4, and d = 6 there is a chance for
leading to an exactly solvable value for Equation (7) for the
X = delta t substitution.
12. Three Theorems, So as to Have a Case by Case Rendition of the Physics of Our Quintic Polynomial
Theorem 1
For d = 0, d = 2, d = 4, and d = 6, Equation (2) and Equation (3) are solvable, in terms of
, hence, then for the
and
terms, contributing to a value of
we do not have an exactly solvable Quintic polynomial. Hence, then,
is not going to contribute to
being changed from a negative value, as given in Equation (2) to a positive value so it would be commensurate with Equation (3). Hence, so that
changes
.
Hence, a necessary condition for exact solvability of the restricted quantic commensurate for Equation (2) and Equation (3) and
is that the dimensions, d, as far as AdS/CFT correspondence have even values.
Theorem 2
For d = 0, d = 2, d = 4, and d = 6, Equation (2), Equation (3) and Equation (4) are solvable, hence we have that for these values of d, that we have an exact solution for
, hence then we do have a minimum uncertainty principle quantum gravity. We will then say that we DON’T have semi classical treatment of gravity.
Theorem 3
If we have d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 set in AdS/CFT in dimensions, so that
changing
is NO LONGDER POSSIBLE. We have then no solvability of Equation (2), Equation (3) and Equation (4), hence, then ODD values of d, as given above, lead to SEMI Classical gravity.
Corollary is that then, ODD values of d, lead to SEMI classical treatment of gravity, and we can say then that the Kaluza Klein [5] 5-dimensional treatment is at best SEMI classical.
13. Analyzing When We Have a Very Small
changing
to
(41)
Theorem 4
very small, so that the first quintic polynomial term being ignorable, leads then to writing:
(42)
We claim that this is rather than a case of semi classical, versus quantum a case of real and imaginary time, with a preference toward have d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 set in AdS/CFT in dimensions, so that
is not necessary, and then we have the following d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 to work with, so that we get
Theorem 5
Very small values of the sort with
lead to, if d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 then
is not necessary for real values of
, and then we have values of
, so that
is real valued. Also, then,
is equivalent to H, with H a Hamiltonian system, i.e. a 1-1 and onto linkage then to the Hamiltonian being the same as the total energy of our system. This is in line with Abraham and Mardsen [6] , Arnold [7] , and Goldstein [8] , as well as Spiegel [9] of a condition where the Hamiltonian is equal to the total energy of a system.
14. Conclusion, Relevance to the Problem of the Closed Throat of a Wormhole. And Small to Large Delta T Values
According to applying the criterial of [2] we have that if we look at a worm hole
Theorem 6
(43)
Keep in mind that this is making a connection with a Gravitino, of a very light mass, so as to be congruent with [2] , we would have, say a gravitino of about.25 electron volts, i.e. see [10] whereas we make the connection to [11] as brought up by the author as a link between gravitons and gravitinos, and Mach’s theorem. Should this be fleshed out in further generality, we will have the conundrum of addressing for very small delta t, Equation (43) in conjunction with Equation (44) below compared to Equation (42)) being usefully compared with connections to Equation (42)
(44)
This would d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 then
is not necessary for real values of
, and then we have values of
, so that
is real valued. And equal to the Hamiltonian.
Also, if Equation (43) does not hold.
Whereas for greater time step delta t, we have the consider the cases given in Theorems 1, 2, and 3 above.
Where if d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 then
, and then the following summing up
Theorem 7
if Equation (44) does not hold, i.e. for non-negligible delta t
if d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 then
, and then
1)
, HENCE the worm hole throat is closed.
2) We also do not have classical gravity if (i) is true. i.e. we can have quantum gravity.
3) Open throat worm hole means we assume semi classical gravity.
Else
Theorem 8
if Equation (43) does hold, i.e. for negligible delta t
if d = 1, d = 3, d = 5, d = 7 then
IS NOT NECESSARY, for real values of
, and then we have values of
, so that
is real valued. And equal to the Hamiltonian. Note then if
IS NOT NECESSARY for quantum gravity and then
and we have an open worm hole throat
i.e. for very small
it is easy to come up with real values of
, and non-imaginary
and it’s easy to obtain
for an OPEN worm hole throat.
Theorem 9
If
not so negligible, in order to obtain
for an OPEN worm hole throat. We would then have to go to semi classical gravity. Due to the difficulty of obtaining
.
With regards to this problem, it is useful to make reference to [2] , as its review of the fact that a general solution to Quintic 5th order polynomials does not exist. What we are doing is accessing instead results from Galois theory, as to Quintics, [6] [7] .
In a nutshell, we will be formally deriving
in our next section and from there ascertaining if the polynomial so derived, is explainable in terms of [5] , in terms of exactly solvable solutions for
. For the sake of referencing the development of this article, we have as our motivating hypothesis, that if
is a polynomial in a form given in [5] that indeed, since n will be in terms of a graviton count from a black hole that then we have a NECESSARY condition for quantum gravity, at least in the framework of aligning
in terms of the polynomials given in [5] which are allegedly exactly solvable. If
does not meet the conditions given in [5] , then we say that the criteria for exact solvability of an expression for
have not been met, and that indeed, then we have at best a semi classical treatment of gravity for reason which we will discuss at the end of our manuscript.
Finally, the reference [9] by C. A. Pickett and J. D. Zunda gives an area calculation which neatly fits into [10] and [11] , whereas there is in [10] a precise calculation of entropy which also has an area to volume identification for black holes and entropy calculations. We close after all of this in stating that the energy, will be part of
, as in the usual Heisenberg Uncertainty relationships,
, whereas we take the minimum condition of uncertainty by writing
[12] , and [13] confirms that indeed we have that use of minimum uncertainty in terms of data analysis has a long history if done correctly. Keep in mind that we do an abbreviation of
(45)
This will allow us to obtain, in entropy a polynomial which we identify as
. The exact solution of this analysis, in terms of [2] will then form the basis of our analysis of if we have classical gravity, or quantum gravity, in terms of necessary conditions. If Equation (45) and
is not exactly solvable, in terms of [5] we will the assert that this means gravity, in the case of the derived expression for Kerr-Newman black holes, is semi classical.
15. Derivation of the Polynomial
We begin by looking at [20] [21] for which we have that in terms of an AdS/CFT representation of entropy that we have, especially if we use [9] for Area, and S proportional to n for graviton count related to Entropy, as by [27] , then
(46)
We then have the following representation for a polynomial in
, namely if we have conflating of the material in Equation (45) as far as a quantic treatment of delta t, as by [5] we have that
(47)
We will then, describe how to obtain from Equation (47), the Quintic
.
16. Obtaining
from Equation (47)
In order to obtain this, we make the following substitutions below, and we will state specifically that in order to have a negative temperature in order to obtain the conditions as given in [5] [59] for a Quintic polynomial which is solvable in the sense of what that article [5] [59] is saying. We will later on describe this in detail. But below we put in the substation needed so we can obtain the polynomial in delta t, which we will then subsequently modify. This also uses [20] and [21]
(48)
i.e. in order to obtain, in a sense a Quintic equation which can be solved, [2] [5] [59] ,
(49)
17. Can We Have Negative Temperature?
This requires using [20] [21] and it is not clear that this is actually obtainable, in the experimental set up as given in our [20] [21] input into a black hole.
What else do we need?
According to the abstract of [2] and which is used in [5]
Quote
Let a and b be nonzero rational numbers. We show that there are an infinite number of essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials
. On the other hand, we show that there are only five essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials
, namely,
(50)
End of quote
Aside from having a negative temperature, as for the reason given in Equation (48) we have that if [20] [21] is satisfied and still commensurate with reference [20] [21] that we also need to have a polynomial in delta t, which is commensurate with Equation (49) (6) which is also influenced by Equation (50) which is taken from the abstract in [2] , [5] and is linkable to Equation (47).
18. Conclusion. i.e. A Necessary Condition for Quantization of Induced Kerr Newman Black Hole
We first of all need to have a “negative” temperature. i.e. is this doable? This has to be rigorously explored experimentally and determined.
Secondly our Equation (48) terms have to be consistently comparable to Equation (49). This requires rescaling of Equation (48) but this is doable pending dimensional analysis, and perhaps Planckian physics units.
Both these conditions would be a NECESSARY condition for satisfying in terms of reference [5]
which we state would be due our construction a necessary condition for a complete quantum gravity analysis of gravitons being emitted from a Kerr-Newman black hole.
We state that these two points have to be determined and investigated, and also that an optimal value of d, for dimensions for a problem, involving Kerr Newman black holes would have to be ascertained in future research.
Finally, we refer the reader to references [59] [60] [61] [62] for additional ideas which may be used in future projects.
Note also that Valev wrote [66]
(51)
and Valev indicates in his article that this gives a light year, or more length GW of unimaginably low frequency. Obviously, in terms of experimental conditions, this breaks down, i.e. in the limit of say a simulated worm hole in a laboratory, so it would be useful to find ways to experimentally test and vet Equation (49) in our review of basics.
Arguing further, the derivation done above, as for a HUP is likely doable and obtainable from higher dimensions. The referee asked that if a minimum uncertainty relation exists which is what I am asserting via [2] which is influenced by [5] that there are then several cases.
In the situation of Kaluza Klein, d = 1 that we should assert the following.
Going to the text, there are two equations which bear examination. i.e. see this in the text. Recall Equation (36) and Equation (37) of this text. We will summarize again what came in Equation (36) and Equation (37) as follows.
We are then leading to, if we have a distance, we call
. And Equation (36) and Equation (37) that if in this situation we have
We go to Equation (37) with the result that in the case of d = 1 in the situation for which
, that indeed the ground state, as referred to in Equation (37) is a strong indicator of quantum gravity. i.e., The zero-point energy is dependent upon a graviton count,
.
End of my argument here.
i.e. my argument is that in the case of Equation (37) due to the last line, that one is having a graviton count, as linked to lowest level uncertainty, for energy and that this, in itself is supporting a quantum interpretation of gravity based upon minimum time step.
Keep in mind, too, what is in the answer to my answer to the reviewers first question. i.e. S (entropy) ~ n (graviton count) is put in directly into the derivation of Equation (6). There is no way to guarantee. S (entropy) ~ n (graviton count) being positive as to two black holes at the two ends of a worm hole. i.e. that is one of the wormhole configurations. Unless one has NEGATIVE temperature. i.e. see the discussion of the text on this, and that ties in directly with the
sign of
, as given in
.
The
cases have a different behavior than what is in
when we are looking at Equation (6) it really hits home. And the sign of A1 influences the solvability of finding
which in turn affects the likelihood of Equation (37) above, and also, we have that we want a minimum energy to depend upon graviton count, with that process being inherently quantum nature of gravity.
The d = 1 case, as with having
. i.e. if d = 1, our minimum uncertainty, which is solvable then will be giving us functional linkage to gravity and gravitons.
End of quote
The tack of reference [9] [30] [37] is that in order to have a positive black hole entropy, that we have to entertain negative temperature, which is given in Equation (9) and which is elaborated on in page 5 of reference [9] [30] [37] . i.e., by the following adage, i.e. in order to have positive black hole entropy, the temperature has to be negative, i.e. Equation (8) could give negative black hole entropy, and in order to obtain positive entropy for a black hole, as given by Equation (7) we have to have Equation (9) with negative temperature. To those whom still do not believe this summary? Go to reference [9] [30] [37] and look it up. Now how does this connect worm holes? i.e., a typical model of worm holes has in its formulation a worm hole bridge between two black holes. The complete Schwarzschild geometry consists of a black hole, a white hole, and two Universes connected at their horizons by a wormhole [39] . We have already discussed that negative temperature may exist in astrophysics, i.e. our next section is to link that to worm holes [40] .
19. Negative Temperatures, and the Total Energy of Worm Holes
As we will argue accessing Juan Maldacena, et al. [39] , the total energy of a worm hole reads as follows, h namely given in Equation (10) which has
. (10) reduplicated.
End of quote
So far this is not stringy, or linked to AdS/CFT correspondence, but then observe the following
From the text. i.e.
20. How to Reconcile String Theory Which Is a Quantum Gravity Regime, with Results Which Seem to Be Inconsistent with Quantum Gravity
The reviewer, in [14] sent the following question which deserves an answer, i.e.
Quote
Another issue is that in all of this the author is working within a “stringy” framework, for instance the values of d are chosen such as to be compatible with string theory, AdS/CFT concepts are used throughout the work, and so on. However, string theory is a theory of quantum gravity. How can you make assumptions consistent with quantum gravity and then derive conditions which are inconsistent with quantum gravity at the same time? This is very inconsistent
End of quote
The author refers the readers to [19] , specifically go to page 639 as to the coupling constants used in super Yang Mills theory. i.e. in the section labeled “the Coupling constants”, [23] write that
Quote, from [19] , page 639
“The dimensional effective coupling of super Yang Mills theory in d + 1 dimension is scale dependent. At an energy scale E, it is determined by dimensional analysis to be given by Equation (4) we write as
(4) reduplicated
This coupling is small, so that perturbation theory applies for large E (the UV) for d < 3, and for small E (the IR). The special case of d = 3 corresponds to
super Yang Mills theory in four dimensions, which is known to be a UV finite, conformally invariant theory. In that case,
is independent of the scale E and corresponds to the t’Hooft coupling constant which we use the results of Equation (5) we write as
(5) reduplicated
This is the constant which is held constant in the large-N expansion of the gauge theory discussed below.
End of quote from page 639 of [19]
i.e. in our work, the question of d dependence will be crucial in the application of the
to the question of if we have adherence to quantum gravity, via if we need a negative temperature, will show up as follows, namely
If we have from [2] the following decomposition of the quintic polynomial, and for this see Equation (6) duplicated below, we will be able to go look at the dynamics of what may be occurring for d = 3, i.e. what if we have independence of a coupling constant from energy, we have from d = 3 in the situation where we have no dependence of the coefficient
upon the sign of the
. If say we
have a typical dependence of system energy, say
we
are saying, if we believe that this removes the necessity of having a negative, or positive temperature, that then the possibility of, say a black hole having negative entropy (for positive temperature) as given by [15] is not important. But this would mean an effective statistically based negative energy, which would be for say energy flowing into a black hole. However, in our derivation of the quintic polynomial, in [2] we are dependent upon an entropy count based upon infinite statistics counting algorithm based upon entropy being based upon an admitted particle count, i.e. S ~ particle count n, as given in [29] . The upshot is, that if we have d = 3 that we have a string theory-based removal of the sign of energy, and temperature in coupling which means that the coupling constant as given in Equation (4) and Equation (5) is also consistent with [30] and is also covered in [5] as we derived it. i.e. that the result we have, which uses [28] and [29] , for d = 3 is fully consistent with the Equation (4) and Equation (5) removal of the centrality of how we evaluate energy, in terms of the sign of energy, if we in doing
this regard our input energy, as say along the lines of
. In this sense, our results in terms of removal of the importance of the sign of the temperature, and by extension statistical energy, given in Equation (6) may make a partial linkage between Equation (6), and Equation (5) if we can write
, as an input into Equation (5), with the applied temperature
.
21. Brief Summary of Reference [8] and the Problem of a Solution by Radicals
Readers are recommended to go to page 4 of [8] where the question of if a quintic polynomial is exactly solvable. Well it is not in general solvable. That is the point of reference [2] , and the trinomial quintic. And Equation (15).
The answer to why this is known as the Abel Ruffini theorem [49] i.e. to look at the following.
The theorem does not assert that some higher-degree polynomial equations have no solution. In fact, the opposite is true: every non-constant polynomial equation in one unknown, with real or complex coefficients, has at least one complex number as a solution (and thus, by polynomial division, as many complex roots as its degree, counting repeated roots); this is the fundamental theorem of algebra. These solutions can be computed to any desired degree of accuracy using numerical methods such as the Newton-Raphson method or the Laguerre method, and in this way they are no different from solutions to polynomial equations of the second, third, or fourth degrees. It also does not assert that no higher-degree polynomial equations can be solved in radicals: the equation xn − 1 = 0 can be solved in radicals for every positive integer n, for example. The theorem only shows that there is no general solution in radicals that applies to all equations of a given degree greater than 4.
Also, see [8] , i.e. what the referee does not understand is
quote
no general solution in radicals for degree five generalized quintic equations means the following cannot be done.
A general solution in radicals an algebraic solution or solution in radicals is a closed form expression, and more specifically a closed-form algebraic expression, that is the solution of an algebraic equation in terms of the coefficients, relying only on addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, raising to integer powers, and the extraction of roots (square roots, cube roots, etc.).
As stated, we can also go to [57] i.e. page 54 where the definition of solvability by Radicals is done abstractly. See section 9, solvability of polynomials by radicals. Also [58] .
The result of reference [11] which is mis understood here, is in determining if a radical solution of the given quintic exists. i.e.. In terms of Galois splitting field. The results of Equation (5) ignored by the referee, is in obtaining a solution in terms of radicals is only achievable with regards to the five linear combinations of the sort given for coefficients given in Equation (15). Now if we restrict the solution to the specialized quintic referred to in Equation (15).
End of quote
It is important to review the issues brought up in [59] - [67] before going to the next point. i.e. what needs to be said is that we are looking at
a) A minimum condition for quantization.
b) Looking at what happens to algebraic theory as to precise delineation as to roots.
c) Basic conditions as to black hole and worm hole physics.
In order to parse this we should review the physics of why we are even going to review the application of [2] .
This closed form solution is a direct result of the failure of the quadratic equation approximation and the application of Gauss-Lucas theorem to have any commonality.
We furthermore make the following observation, i.e.
Quote
There are tons of references to Galois theory in this paper. i.e. the readers should READ them. And the following is, in lieu of Equation (32).
We say without reservation that if we wish to have generalized inputs into A1 and A2 of the quintic equation that the following must be adhered to, and that without reservation we make, in the spirit of a generalized polynomial solution the following statement as to the values of the quintic equation. i.e., as given below we have a reduplication of Equation (17) to consider
(17) reduplicated
There are no conceivable conditions for which one would have such a situation for a GENERAL solution. We are referring to general solvability. Of quintics, by what is known as by radicals. See more on this as follows
End of quote
The referee, and readers are enjoined to review this paper, and look at these details. Secondly, and I cannot stress this more than once, READ the following paper, i.e. [2] Spearman, B. and Williams, K. (1998) On Solvable Quintics
and
. Rocky Mountain Journal of Mathematics, 28.
Note that it is very important. Why was the Kerr Newman black hole chosen as a statement about quantum gravity? What is special about it? How can this be justified?
Here, I urge people to read the following
Quote, from [67]
The Kerr-Newman metric describes a very special rotating, charged mass and is the most general of the asymptotically flat stationary 'black hole' solutions to the Einstein-Maxwell equations of general relativity. We review the derivation of this metric from the Reissner-Nordstrom solution by means of a complex transformation algorithm and provide a brief overview of its basic geometric properties. We also include some discussion of interpretive issues, related metrics, and higher-dimensional analogues
End of quote
It is the specific adage as to this black hole being the most GENERAL solution. i.e. this generality is why it was picked, as the most general, easily analyzed case.
We urge readers whom may not be satisfied by this to if they have to look at more extensions of this black hole business to look at [68] which is an encyclopedia of black holes in higher dimensions. It re enforces many of the same themes brought up here.
Keep in mind that the next final section has essential details as to solvability of what is called the restricted trinomial quintic, which is the main focus of the second array of complaints by the reviewer. This is highly specialized and is algebraic field theory, and Galois theory. For your edification.
It is useful to include in the following.
22. Final Set of Comments as to the Suitability of Using Galois Theory, i.e. [2] , to Solve the Quintic, Due to Additional Questions Raised
See page 398, of [69] i.e. this came from subsequent questions in several additional rounds of inquiry by the referee, in [14] . Hence, to give a reality as to the restricted nature of the coefficients of Equation (15) we first of all referred to the following theorem, as to what not to use in our problem. This primarily because the reviewer was so dead set against complex to imaginary time values. i.e. consider the following basic theorem:
Theorem, the Fundamental theorem of algebra
The field of complex numbers is algebraically closed, that is, every polynomial in
has a root in
i.e. in our case, as requested by the referee, we will be avoiding in analyzing a given polynomial
having any
and
with complex coefficients; so as to avoid
be forced to be a root in
.
Now, assume we are working with a real valued quintic equation. i.e.
In addition, we have Descartes’ rule of sign [69] is used to determine the number of real zeros of a polynomial function, i.e. see this example. For the number of positive real roots, look at the polynomial, written in descending order, and count how many times the sign changes from term to term. This value represents the maximum number of positive roots in the polynomial. For example, in the polynomial
, you see two changes in sign (don’t forget to include the plus sign of the first term!)―from the first term (+2x4) to the second (−9x3) and from the third term (−21x2) to the fourth term (88x). That means this equation can have up to two positive solutions.
Descartes’s rule of signs says the number of positive roots is equal to changes in sign of f(x) or is less than that by an even number (so you keep subtracting 2 until you get either 1 or 0, i.e. Negative real roots. For the number of negative real roots, find f(−x) and count again. Because negative numbers raised to even powers are positive and negative numbers raised to odd powers are negative, this change affects only terms with odd powers. This step is the same as changing each term with an odd degree to its opposite sign and counting the sign changes again, which gives you the maximum number of negative roots. The example equation becomes
, which changes signs twice. There can be, at most, two negative roots. However, similar to the rule for positive roots, the number of negative roots is equal to the changes in sign for f(−x) or must be less than that by an even number. Therefore, this example can have either 2 or 0 negative roots.
This has been generalized in [71] in the following manner, i.e. In the 1970s Askold Georgevich Khovanskiǐ developed the theory of fewnomials that generalises Descartes' rule. The rule of signs can be thought of as stating that the number of real roots of a polynomial is dependent on the polynomial's complexity, and that this complexity is proportional to the number of monomials it has, not its degree. Khovanskiǐ showed that this holds true not just for polynomials but for algebraic combinations of many transcendental functions, the so-called Pfaffian functions [72] .
Here, a monomial is defined as [73] , and in addition, note that If a polynomial doesn’t factor, it’s called prime because its only factors are 1 and itself. Having said that, let us now go to some other issues.
Note
Equation (15) is a carbon copy of part of the abstract result from [2]
Observe
Here is the question. See Equation (15)
The referee in [14] questioned as to the following, i.e. these are desired combination of the given polynomial
. This in itself is fair. But the allegation that Equation (14) from the text below was constructed out of thin air is, actually from [2] . We use also, here that
and that then we will review the math descriptions given in [2]
From [2] and also Equation (15) of this manuscript. We observe that Equation (15) is synchronized with the appendix entry of reference [2] .
Let a and b be nonzero rational numbers. We show that there are an infinite number of essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials
. On the other hand, we show that there are only five essentially different, irreducible, solvable, quintic trinomials
, namely, by [2] , which is Equation (15) of the text.
The Descartes rule of signs would indicate that such combinations would allow for real valued
. Why is this important? First, the referee has stated a preference for finding roots of
being real valued. i.e. don’t believe it? Go to pages 28 and 29 of this manuscript where this preference is explicitly stated. Secondly, if say a worm hole is in its throat permitting negative time, say in conjunction that the time variable would become positive in the mouth of the worm hole. i.e., what we have been doing is to look at the conditions of the time dynamics in the throat of a worm hole. We shall go to the terms in reference [2] and begin to describe them, mathematically speaking. i.e. one of the first items is that the coefficients
and
are at least real valued. In fact, we have that from Equation (6) of the text, that the breakdown of the equation is, given. In this case, go to Equation (6) of the text.
If we have that d = 2, 4, 6, the sign of temperature does not play a role, and we will have then that we will have no commensurate connection with Equation (15) of the text. It also would indicate a positive time component, as to
whereas we do wish to have the following convention:
a) For the throat, we would prefer to have negative time, which would transition to positive time, at the mouth of the worm hole. This so long as d = 2, 4, 6.
b) If d = 1, 3, 5, 7, then we could have, by use of the Descartes sign convention negative time roots for time in the worm hole throat.
Using [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] we would have then a situation for which we would first of all avoid having imaginary time, if we use the conventions of Equation (15) and also keep in mind the first part of Equation (6) from the text we avoid imaginary, or complex time, which is what the referee would not stand for, and in addition, negative roots for
as well as being real valued which is what we would prefer to have.
Note, that a possible problem, about using [2] is that the field as specified in Equation (15) would require that
and
have rational coefficients. The restriction this would mean is that we would then say have to have, for the application of Equation (15) the following, namely use this part of Equation (6)
{Part of Equation (6) from text}
In the case of
this happens immediately. As for
, it likely would mean defining
or some other input variables in such a way as to lead to a canceling out of the
term. i.e. my preference would be to have
and J defined in such a way as to effectively cancel out the
term from
. Note if
effectively vanished, we would then have a very easy to solve equation for
i.e. no problem in terms of a defined
. However, in doing so we would have another problem in that the linkage to quantum gravity, i.e. a linkage to gravitons and quantum mechanics would be effectively demolished.
Next, in this is a question of the different terms in reference [2] . We will review them. First of all is the idea of irreducible polynomials. Let F be a finite field. As for general fields, a non-constant polynomial f in F[x] is said to be irreducible over F if it is not the product of two polynomials of positive degree. A polynomial of positive degree that is not irreducible over F is called reducible over F. [74] - [79] .
Now a polynomial of positive degree is such that the degree of a polynomial and the sign of its leading coefficient dictates its limiting behavior, and in our case, we have positive degrees with the term
.
Going back to [2] we have that the following shows up, i.e.
If the equation f(x) = 0 is solvable by radicals, the quintic polynomial f(X) is said to be solvable. If f(X) is solvable, its Galois group is solvable and is thus contained in the Frobenius group Fzo of order 20, and hence is isomorphic to
. Here, polynomial f(x) = 0 is solvable by radicals, means that definitions as to solvability in [80] is satisfied in that we have operations given in the examples delineated by [81] .
To re capitulate, what we choose in [2] was largely chosen due to the physical issues brought up in pages 48 to 51, as is conveniently brought up in Equation (15) which was not arbitrarily chosen.
Also, due to another issue once again, Equation (16) of the text, as to what to avoid reads as
,
, and my objection is clearly rendered in Equation (17) which does not have
and
. As to avoiding,
and
with these two values chosen not by me, and the equation below representing what we wish to avoid. i.e., Particular solutions in the case where we want general solutions. Note the following as to what to avoid. i.e. see Equation (17) In short, reference [2] was chosen as to its intersection with the Descartes result as of, once again.
If we have that d = 2, 4, 6, the sign of temperature does not play a role, and we will have then that we will have no commensurate connection with Equation (15) of the text. It also would indicate a positive time component, as to
whereas we do wish to have the following convention.
c) For the throat, we would prefer to have negative time, which would transition to positive time, at the mouth of the worm hole. This so long as d = 2, 4, 6.
d) If d = 1, 3, 5, 7, then we could have, by use of the Descartes sign convention negative time roots for time in the worm hole throat.
Using [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] we would have then a situation for which we would first of all avoid having imaginary time, if we use the conventions of Equation (15) and also keep in mind the first part of Equation (6) from the text we avoid imaginary, or complex time, which is what the referee would not stand for, and in addition, negative roots for
as well as being real valued which is what we would prefer to have.
Both physics and mathematics is well served, and we used [2] also in addition to the above, due to Equation (1) which we render again as the three cases, with the derivative of the polynomial having very different solution behavior for
, than what we would obtain for the quadratic approximation. Plus again, wishing to have by Descartes convention of signs the possibility of guaranteed access to non-imaginary, real valued roots, which could have, by Descartes convention of signs cases where not only could we have real valued
but also negative time for
in the throat of the wormhole.
See Equation (1) reproduced below as to giving us this starting point.
(1) reduplicated again
Note in addition that there are other wormhole issues, vitally important which will be brought up, extending these issues once review is commenced.
Keep in mind that we have one extension which will be stated here.
As a parting remark, this business of choice of sign, for temperature and the behavior of a worm hole, and the question of if we have quantization behavior has similarities to some of the research work goals done by John Klauder [82] which we put in as the final reference as to our inquiry, especially if the worm hole construction is prevalent in the early phases of the expansion of the universe, as given in this document. In all we will seek connections with Dr. Klauder’s work in future extensions of our inquiry.
Finally, and not to be minimized, we view that not only is Dr. Klauder’s work important that we also have what is known as the Jones Polynomials to compare our polynomial idea with. i.e. see [83] , page 332.
Since we have referenced temperature, it would be expedient to go to page 332 where there is linkage to polynomials, and the idea of a partition function, and in page 328. Undoubtedly there will be connections made to what is known as the Alexander-Conway polynomial of the Hopf link, as given in Figure 45 of page 328 of [83] .
We close in stating also that there are more polynomial issues brought up in [84] which are linked to higher order curvature terms, which will be playing a role in our inquiries.
23. Final Remarks to Bring Up for Reference as to the Next Publication as a Sequel to This Document
One of the issues which has been raised in conversations, has been about the dimensionality of d. i.e., see reference [85] , it could be fractal or an irrational number. i.e. a fractal d may, with some caveats so that one would have Equation (33) be consistent with the Galois theory of reference [2] so we could use directly the Rocky Mountain journal of mathematics as to having
and
with rational coefficients, which would make our results consistent with the choice of Equation (15) and reference [2] . To do that we wish to have that the following equation, as given below avoid having irrational number character. As presented below.
(52)
At the minimum, it would be also helpful to investigate if we could look at also, the role of additional dimensions, in terms of gravitational waves, as brought up in [86] , as well as research done by Dr. Li, Dr. Wen Hao, and others in terms of [87] , as to how the character of gravitons which are in space time, as say in scalar-tensor gravitational theories influences polarizations.
A suggested update as to this research would be to investigate both the issues of references [86] , and [87] in terms of the worm hole physics, as given in this document, as well as the extensions of worm hole physics brought up in [84] .
Finally, [88] , namely what Maggiore brought up in page 663 as to Thermal Tunneling theory, as to a first order phase transition material which may have very strong similarities as to the generation of GW as seen in our model, should be further developed and compared with our model, i.e. the Maggiore Tunneling and the bounce section of this manuscript, as of [88] may have GW characteristics similar to what we are bringing up in our problem. i.e. there is in page 668 of [88] a tunneling rate, as given by the physics of Equation (33) below, which is for GW and gravitons emerging from the worm hole.
(53)
Is such a construction even remotely feasible for the tunneling rate of gravitons say from a closed worm hole throat, to our present universe, and what is the counter part to the Euclidian action in our model?
As of now, it is assuming a closed throat which appears to be consistent with our paper, but then say what is the value of the Euclidian action? A final issue to add, if this Equation (53) is relevant, to graviton production and say if we restricted ourselves to d = 1, i.e. the Kaluza Klein case, could we also look at an intermixture of gravitons with the electromagnetic field, which is given in [89] , where from pages 295 to 299, the Kaluza Klein theory of electromagnetism is brought up, a purported linkage between the fine structure constant, and a nominal topological charge, i.e. if d = 1, look at say a linkage between a topological charge,
and a fine structure constant value. And possibly gravity itself as from the worm hole throat, via linkage between gravitons, eventually, and the 1/r2 gravitational potential. See this from [83] and its equations from 295 to 299 of [84] which gives an introduction to Kaluza Klein, and charges
(54)
The idea would be to make linkage between the production of Gravitons, and a gravitational potential energy system, i.e. in this case through the 1/r2 potential energy system. i.e. along the lines of a first order approximation of gravitational potential energy, as to a modification of the the 1/r2 potential energy system, and a linkage with that to gravitons, and then from there, using that, assuming some variant of Equation (53) to then link graviton production behavior to the filling in of detail as to creating charge,
, i.e. in this case creating a unification, via the cosmological constant with the idea of gravitational characteristics, and electromagnetics, in the d = 1 case. Keep in mind that as given in [90] there are extensions of the electromagnetic field, beyond Maxwell’s equation, as given by Terence Barrett, and that what we are asking about is in the same spirit. i.e. this is a long term project of linkage of electromagnetic field, with gravitation, in the case of the wormhole throat, and is a step beyond our present endeavor we should try for. i.e. for d = 1 linkage of gravitons, with a 1/r2 potential and gravity and an open question of if this 1/r2 potential could be linked to the state of gravity emerging from a worm hole, and charge Q of electromagnetic fields.
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This work is supported in part by National Nature Science Foundation of China grant No. 11375279.