A. M. MACKINNON
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face, still how interest develops must surely remain a mystery,
something like a miracle that happens somehow through our
interactions with our families, heritage, culture, and the various
situations in which we find ourselves. How interest happens is
illusive, yet we cannot deny the over-arching influence of our
passions and desires over what we become.
Having said that, we may consider another input of learning
as opportunity—opportunities in life to develop and pursue
interests and passions. These are the formative times in our
lives when we have the opportunity to develop interests in the
first place. Of course this depends on milieu, culture, economic
condition, the fashion of the times, and so on. Nevertheless, we
could in my example come to see the guitar as a tool and means
with which I interact with the milieu. The guitar not only medi-
ates my engagement in the world, it allows for the engagement
in the first place. In this way we begin to understand the guitar
and a young boy’s interest as ingredients of learning. Through
the guitar, I interact with the world. My passion for the guitar
develops and presents me to the world dialogically through the
opportunities at hand.
The opportunities at hand nourish our view of ourselves and
our deepening passions and forming identities. The more I be-
came known for playing the guitar, the more opportunities
came and the more I was occupied—preoccupied—with play-
ing the guitar, and the more I put my heart into it. We can begin
to see the individual’s relationship with society—the opportu-
nities at hand—as karaoke. Literally, the word means ‘empty
song.’ In karaoke, one can enter an empty song and fill it as its
singer. The technology of karaoke provides a musical structure
that is quite literally a song without a singer. Through karaoke,
people find out whether they are singers or not. The more they
feel like singers, the more they go to karaoke; the more they go,
the better they get and the better the response from the audience;
the better the response, the greater they feel and behave like a
singer, and so on in spirals of contingencies. The occasion to
‘enter the song’ is furnished by the individual’s developing
identity, which is in dialogical relationship with society.
When we think about a child’s developing identity, we can
see in my example that the guitar is at the center of a whole
world of influences. The very nature of rock and roll music
provides a template for social uprising and critique. It is a cul-
ture of rebellion, and the guitar especially is like a tool for the
working-class man to sing the blues, to express his opinion
about the way things are and the way they ought to be. The
guitar, together with the culture of rock and roll music, can
become a vehicle for transcending from the conditions of eve-
ryday life and the problems of society. In this sense, the guitar
is like the pen of the poet, which permits a certain element of
cheekiness and impertinence on the part of rock and roll musi-
cians, and hence some latitude for a young boy in expressing
himself as I did.
I suppose I would need a great deal more thought and analy-
sis in order to truly understand the role of the guitar in my mind
and heart and my learning. Of course, I was not alone in my
interests and motivations. There were and still are many, many
other people of all ages like myself who have a guitar stuck in
their minds, who anchor themselves in life with a guitar. We
would need to learn a great deal more to understand why this is
the case. But it is fascinating to think, in the example developed
here, that I was in fact profoundly influenced by my early
school experience, particularly my formative elementary school
days. As I look back on my early school experiences, these
profound influences seem to have had little to do with the cur-
riculum, or the intended outcomes of the school system in terms
of the way we understand them today.
A Theoretical Foundation for Interest
We cannot appreciate the importance and role of the guitar in
a child’s mind and education without turning to some kind of
personal construct theory or psychology. We need a dialogical
view of self and its social contingencies that is developmental
and multi-focal (Jonassen, 2000; Wertsch, 1998, 1991). We
also need a conception of education as an emotive process that,
for better or worse, follows in the wake of human interest, as-
piration and identity. The core of education for me is the ques-
tion of how one comes to know oneself. How do we, as social
entities, compose ourselves? How do we understand what and
who our influences are, and how is it that we come to see our-
selves in relation to these influences? Our interests tend to de-
fine us as well as our socio-cultural contingencies in the world;
they play a vital role in the kind of education we will ultimately
take for ourselves.
Activity Theory and Dialogism
Knowledge is always embedded in some kind of exchange,
some kind of relation, either mental or material (Lave &
Wenger, 1991; Wertsch, 1991). By material, I’m referring to
the body and its physical constituents and circumstance, draw-
ing attention to the notion that our knowledge is not only in our
minds, but also embedded in our movements, actions, activities,
mediated social practices and rituals (Jonassen, 2000; Lave &
Wenger, 1991). Part of our knowledge we also need to see as
being unmitigated, that is it grows inside our minds and bodies
without our being aware that it’s there. It turns out that some of
our learning is not intentional, that we know more than we can
tell, that we know how to do many things we are unable to de-
scribe.
Together, personal construct theory, a dialogical view of self,
identity and agency, and a view of knowledge as mediated ac-
tivity in social practices, provide a way to see the role and im-
portance of interest in learning. Here, psychology, sociology
and philosophy come together in a contemporary notion that
illuminates the depth of interest and learning that is possible in
young minds and the over-arching power that their interests
wield in shaping their lives.
A Promising Turn in Policy
I think there are two main points I would like to make about
learning. The first is really a comment on human nature itself. It
seems as though we are under constant self-composition or self-
construction. We make ourselves up as we go. It is as though
every day brings a re-birthing of interest, a new act of reaching
for the next bit of information, the next fix of playing the guitar
or whatever it happens to be, as though a person is never really
fully developed. What we think as our identity seems to be in
flux, in constant motion, under continual assessment, as though
cognition itself is the act of reaching. This is like a stage in the
school auditorium during assembly. The educational point to be
made is that this is the assembly where learning happens. There
are many people in the wings, in our various individual assem-
blies, of course, but the second point about learning—the one